Joint Op

Cameron wrote:

ITS SNOWBLIND!

Oops, my bad. I kinda mixed Arcstorm and Blindstorm Snowblind.

I think we should try to get permission for Egypt first before we explore other options. If we all sign some liability waivers for them, there shouldn't be a problem right?

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I am still against game-ending nukes. It is a lose lose situation. If one team gets enough points to have a nuke, they are probably already winning a landslide victory. In that case, the team could easily win the game without the need for a nuke. Last stands by the losing team are some of the most epic moments for both sides, in my opinion at least. If, by some strange chance, both teams are close to a nuke, that means that the game is going well and it would be a shame to cut such a balanced game short.

Honestly, I just do not know what game-enders would add to the game at all.

i agree, game enders suck in airsoft and in any other scenario.

well the nuke can work either way... you have to win by 5000 points or if its a landslide victory or whatever

mavin117 wrote:

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I am still against game-ending nukes. It is a lose lose situation. If one team gets enough points to have a nuke, they are probably already winning a landslide victory. In that case, the team could easily win the game without the need for a nuke. Last stands by the losing team are some of the most epic moments for both sides, in my opinion at least. If, by some strange chance, both teams are close to a nuke, that means that the game is going well and it would be a shame to cut such a balanced game short.

Honestly, I just do not know what game-enders would add to the game at all.

i agree, game enders suck in airsoft and in any other scenario.

Yeah, I find them terrible, I prefer it like Dylan has where there are 2 Nuclear sites that are not usable unless the enemy does not clear them of hostiles and the game ends, then the nukes were successfully "launched" but thats a timer game, not random chance of nuclear warfare. I do, however, love the games like that, so much cooperation required and you all have to try your hardest to not die... haha

I wouldn't let on to them that we were planning a huge event, or else they may say no. We could just ask for written permission to play there, to show to the police or whoever. We can deal with liability seperately.

yeah if its such a victory, why do you need a nuke. and with all this talk of points, have you thought about that this isnt a game where a computer tallys it all for you real time. and there can and will be an incredible amount of confusion when you gather to tally the points from each person..and inevitably arguments will ensue and so on and so forth eventually contributing to the end of the world.....most likely

So basically, after all of the arguments start, everyone is for themselves and has to try to launch the nuke killing everyone else, yet somehow surviving the explosion haha.

I still think it should be OBJECTIVE based, for example, Star Wars Battlefront or Company of Heroes, there are strategic points and resource caches (coh) that you can capture, I still wish we had it to where we would have to raise a flag up to capture a location, and take down the enemy flag and raise yours in order to control the area, and if the time limit ends, whoever controls more than 1/2 of the objectives wins, thats my take on this.

The point of the op is to make it as open ended as possible to enable more randomness. responding to the argument thing, like chosen1 said, reffs word is law. if anyone has any problems they can take it up with the reffs. I dont think I should ask permission because I dont think Im too good at those type things. Anyone else willing to? I will also repost the first part of the packet since it has been fixed as well as post the second part when I finish it.

oh so you're going S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky on us with the multiple factions style thing? that would be cool if we got enough but I mean clear sky in general so theres like random raids, counterattacks and all that good stuff, minus the mutants. (lol dragging stalker into this xD)

please stay on topic. I will post part 2 soon

That is on topic? Actually read it next time....

just please dont bring stalker into this

I said the game style, like I said, actually read it before posting....

I did read it and understand how it relates to stalker. Im just saying I dont want people to bring things that do not have to do with the op up because once someone says one thing then other people start talking about it too ya know?

Nobody here plays that game except for me and Mavin, we're about the only 2 PC gamers in this place, I just figured the game style would be the same. So would the teams be divided into 2 or would we have 3 factions?

there are 3 factions but two of them have several sub- factions (see the story draft on page 2)

Ah how many players to a squad or will that be determined when people show up/sign up?

Sign ups will determine how many per squad.

Heres part two:
Part 2: Basic Layout

Bases… Every team begins the operation with a base (a small building or encampment) where the players may keep their weapons and ammo. This is also the ideal location for the team general to remain and direct his troops. Note that this is NOT a place where you can take of your mask or glasses; it is still part of the in-game area. There will be a designated location where it will be safe to remove your safety gear, relax, eat, and sleep.

Generals… Every Team starts with a general (not every sub-faction, just the main ones). The AXIS and ALLIES generals are not meant to be in combat (but may carry a sidearm) and are supposed to direct their troops strategically. Generals also have the ability to spend the team’s currency on special abilities or delegate it to soldiers for them to spend. The mercenary leader is the only general who may be in combat with his troops. Once a general is killed the team must organize themselves and delegate money without a general.

Currency… Every team have a starting amount of currency. Teams earn currency from reffs by completing objectives, capturing territories, or doing an action that a reff thinks is worth currency. Currency can buy several abilities:
50= med kit- instant self heal for player

100= long range marksman support- player chooses an enemy player to be "shot" and calls head or tails. The ref than goes over to the unfortunate player and tells him he was "shot", and depending on the call of the player, the shot player is killed or wounded. The calling player does not know if his call was correct or not, therefore, he doesn't know if it was a kill or not.

150= mortar strike- The player chooses a bunker. All players within the bunker are killed or wounded at the discretion of the ref. This bonus can only be used on buildings, bunkers, etc. not on open ground.

200= 30mm strafing run- player points out an area of open ground. All players in a 50 foot vicinity are killed or wounded at the ref's discretion. This bonus is useless against entrenched or heavily bunkered targets.

500= airstrike- thorough carpet bombing in a 100 foot radius leaves all players wounded or killed at the discretion of the ref.
Currency may also be used to bribe the mercenary team into helping them (see the mercenary section for more details). Currency must be placed somewhere at your base and may also be stolen by/from other teams.

Territories… The starting base for each team gives territory. More territory may be gained by capturing outposts which are all over the field and resemble smaller bases. Outposts are also respawn points for each team. At the end of the game, territories will be factored into the final score for each team.

Medics… There are allowed to be 4 medics per team except the mercenary team which may have two. Medics carry a red rag which must be tied and then untied on the wounded player to heal him.

Mercenaries… The mercenary team may act as a rogue team against all others or may join another team for the right price. Once the mercenaries have joined another team they must follow any orders issued to them by the team they’re with. They CANNOT suddenly betray the team but may instead tell the team that their treaty is off and they are no longer friendly.

Satellite… The satellite in the operation counts as an outpost, and can be captured like a territory. Players cannot respawn at the satellite.

Wait so are we sure you have this Urban place because bonuses such as the Mortar strike cannot be used unless there are structures.

These are chosen ones killstreaks. I suppose mortar strike could be easily used on outposts. As for the location we are currently trying to use Egypt. We will have to build the outposts before the game.

I love the merc idea...just saying...

Perhaps the mercenaries could have something to identify what team they are on? Something like a shemagh (or other cloth tied like a shemagh) would be nice. Having to inform teams formally which team the mercs are on would interrupt the flow of the game.

it all sounds like a really great idea. I've been networking with the Airsoft Club at my school, and they'd love to have us come down and attend one of the So Cal Airsoft games.

There are only two teams besides the mercs. if the mercs shoot at you then they clearly arent friendly. Thats all you need to know.